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    Booked dZire, Cancelled and bought Scorpio.

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    Post  anjan 28th January 2009, 8:42 pm

    I am planning to buy a new car and have researched a lot.Many of your
    threads and posts with facts and experiences were of immense help.I was
    vacillating between an used Scorpio CRDe and the brand new Swift VDi or
    Swift DZire VDi.
    Yesterday, I finally bid adieu to the used Scorpio plan, as though
    robust and very reliable, it would be a pain to drive it on city roads
    and to park it, due to its gigantic size.Moreover all the used Scorpios
    I had seen were driver-driven and hence the degrees of abuse were
    higher, even at 50K kms or odd.
    The choice zeroed upon the Swift Dzire then, as the Swift being a hatch
    with little luggage space, would be a turn-off for long drives with
    the family.
    And then, it was a visit to a local Maruti showroom today. Enquiries
    revealed that the DZire VDi did not come with ABS and airbag options.
    The ZDi did. Whereas, the Swift VDi had the ABS option. Oh, the
    Japanese they are so canny and shrewd. This is perhaps because even the
    A Star buyers of the above the base models, can have the ABS option and
    of course the Swift VDi has it. Thats because there's lot of
    competition from rival brands in the A Star and Swift hatch segments.
    The DZire does not have any competitor - the archiac Indigo, Ford Ikon or
    Logan base models and the Accent slot in here, but are basically
    outdated.Sorry the Logan is not outdated, but it does not offer a
    cut-throat competition of much consequence to the DZire.
    And coming to the Tatas, they have got away with the Indica Vista since
    Sept 2008, sans the ABS and airbags even in the Vista Aura, its
    flagship variant.So the law of probability says that we cannot expect
    the new Indigo to come with airbags and ABS, when it debuts in March
    2009. And I am still scared of owning Tata cars.
    Back to the DZire, it has bookings for three-four months now and the
    Swift has it for 45-60 days. I saw a ZDi and test drove it for a pretty
    long time. Having driven the 1.3 MJD Swift, the DZire also felt silky
    smooth,with almost no diesel clatter invading the cabin but the barking
    was hard. The gadgetry was quite upto the mark and VFM for the
    price.And only today, the new price lists after the revision of 27/1
    have reached the dealer. The ZDi is gonna cost Rs 10K more, given the
    increase in the basic price, taxes and insurance that all rock'n roll
    around the ex-factory basic price. Pre-price rise it was Rs 7.31 L and
    now its going to be Rs 7.41 L or so. No freebies are offered and even
    the rubber mat is to be fitted, as the car comes only with soft
    carpets. The alloys are from Hindalco (Aura brand) but branded as
    Suzuki (the "S" logo) near the hub centre.The music system offered is
    the 4 speaker Kenwood, with whom MSIL has an age old relationship
    since the 800 DX days.The boot space is quite magnanimous for a car of
    its size.
    The DZire rattles a bit over potholes and does not have the feel of any
    tough Fiat, Ford or the Logan. Its typically a light Japanese car which
    promises lots of fuel economy and durability apart from low
    maintenance. The engine's 75 bhp/19kgm torque are quite OK for its size
    and for our expectations.
    At Rs 7.41 L, I told the Dzire salesman that maybe I go for the Hyundai
    Verna CDRi ABS, which costs just some Rs 70 K more and comes with
    freebies and some discounts. The salesman was undisturbed, as the
    waiting list has put in some degree of confidence in their product.
    Another gremlin I could notice was that the OVERDRIVE Jan 2009 issue
    (car buyers guide) lists the City and Highway fuel consumption of the
    Swift LDi/VDi/ZDi ( 1065/1075 Kg) as somewhere around 16.9/19.3 kmpl,
    whereas for the DZire LDi/VDi/ZDi (1115 Kg)its somewhere around
    15.84/23.02kmpl. How come the DZire achieves this feat with 40 Kg extra
    metal?
    So things going well, I will get the car by early April. The colour
    choice is silky silver.White was good, but my Maruti 800 and Bolero are
    both white.
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    Post  Vibhor 28th January 2009, 8:53 pm

    Wow!Many many Congratulations anjan for the booking of your new car, the DZire!You have made a sensible decision its really a great car, many people have problem with its looks but am not in those, infact the car is very nicely shaped and MSIL has done a great job in sticking up the boot to swift!Also, It comes loaded with features, great choice buddy!Plz do post some pics when it reaches your home but April is quite late anyways Congrats again buddy :D
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    Post  Crazy cat 28th January 2009, 10:05 pm

    Congratulations for the new car anjan :cheers: . As vibhor said, it is a very sensible buy. Even I'm not worried about its looks, its the best looker in its segment. Yeah I too can't understand the way OD test cars FE figures. They are always optimistic and some times confusing too. I always trust ACI for FE figures. You selected my favorite variant. unfortunately Swift doesn't come with this ZDI. Anyways good selection. Keep in touch with salesman and make him get your car soon. :)
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    Post  zinam 28th January 2009, 10:28 pm

    Hey great decision & nice car Anjan!!

    Have a great drive with your Dzire :)

    Expecting the pics very soon!!
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    Post  anjan 28th January 2009, 10:56 pm

    Thanks dear vibhor, CC and zinam for your sincere good wishes. Sure I will post the pictures here.The car is a very practical one and VFM as I can foresee.The salesman told me that some unexpected cancellations are taking place. So that brightens the chances of my getting the Silver Lady by April or so.
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    Post  thackervijay 29th January 2009, 11:39 am

    Congratulations Anjan! clap nice choice of wheels u ordered. Nothing to compare with this one as it really doesnt have any such rivals with the features on offer. The only thing is its looks which few doesnt feel makes a perfect sedan, but i really like this car, and zdi the most of which the features available on this model, agree to CC, they doesnt offer zdi on swift.Keep in touch with the sales representative and wish you early delivery. CHEERS!!!!!!
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    Post  raj_5004 29th January 2009, 2:21 pm

    THREAD MOVED.

    great choice anjan, Dzire is a real value for money package. the looks though take some time to digest, but i have always felt looks are subjective.

    do upgrade us on the entire process in this thread, time to time.
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    Post  anjan 29th January 2009, 9:06 pm

    Thanks dear raj. Was also going by your tips for the used Scorpio, but the idea of a DZire struck and got stuck on my mind. Thanks again and I will keep posting updates here.
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    Post  thackervijay 7th March 2009, 3:32 pm

    hey anjan, heard of you changing your mind for dzire and looking to buy some other car, do put lights on here buddy.
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    Post  anjan 9th March 2009, 9:36 pm

    Vijay The booking still stands.But I am not still decided. Was trying the Xylo (tested here in another thread) but its too huge for city use.It is though a real truck on the highway.
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    Post  thackervijay 10th March 2009, 10:19 am

    oh, read it on one site about you thinking to get another car insead of dzire, so just wanted to confirm whats the position, keep updating.CHEERS!!!
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    Post  Vibhor 12th March 2009, 9:22 pm

    Yes vijay, I think anjan was considering the Xylo but i think he said that he will stick to dZire only. :)
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    Post  thackervijay 13th March 2009, 12:27 pm

    i believe thats a better choice with sticking it with dzire, i know its so annoying to wait this long for your new ride but am sure its worth waiting for.
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    Post  Vibhor 31st March 2009, 10:54 am

    Hi anjan, Heard that you have now cancelled your dZire and booked Scorpio!Congrats, Please update us more on this. :)
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    Post  anjan 31st March 2009, 7:30 pm

    Thanks vibhor dear!!
    On 28/01/09 I cancelled the DZire booking with a local dealer. The salesman
    took my application for cancellation (booked 28/01/09) and spoke quite
    decently assuring me the best of their services as and when needed. Was
    quite happy as they also have terms and conditions to refund the full
    booking amount without any cancellation fees.The delivery of the car
    would have been due in another week or so.
    Now
    have booked one Scorpio LX yesterday (with MHawk engine) after
    cancelling the DZire ZDi booking.I drove the DZire a few times other than the first test drive.
    Actually the Mahindra range was first on my list, but since I have been
    using Marutis I have developed some brand loyalty. The Xylo had a three
    to four month waiting list.I liked it during the test drive.But the
    waiting list made me think about sour grapes.And it is powered by the 2.5 L (down from the Scorpio's 2.6 L) CRDe engine that once powered the Scorpios.
    And the killer news
    came as a call from the Mahindra salesman, who said that for my budget
    they had a MHawk powered variant. So that's what made me switch over.
    I phoned the
    Mahindra salesman and was pleasantly surprised to learn that the MHawk
    engine
    comes in almost all Scorpio variants but for the cheapest M2DI. The MHawk engine
    of
    2149 cc has been much to my liking since it was launched. And Mahindra
    is in my genes having been with all sorts of jeeps since a long time.
    Incidentally the 2.6 CRDe engine is now only for the Xylo (indeed 2.5 L
    in the Xylo ) and the Scorpios have the MHawk in all the versions.And
    the DI engines power the cheapest, base model Scorpios only.
    So
    since the
    LX fitted my budget, I booked one and expect the SUV to reach here by
    15th
    April 09.The LX has dual AC with heater, PW, tilt steering,ski
    rack,spoiler 2 mobile charging points,tubeless tyres central
    locking,engine immobiliser, fabric interiors.The colour opted for is
    mist silver.
    Yes though the SUV has many goodies, the side claddings are not there. And you
    know the dealer gave an estimate of Rs 39,000=00 for fitting painted
    claddings. I then found the price just Rs 70,000 short of the SLE
    version which costs Rs 9 L and offers many other goodies too. These
    claddings were not found with accessory dealers.
    M & M have only a few weeks back introduced the revamped Scorpio with
    price cuts ranging from Rs 74 K to Rs 1.22 K. So maybe they don't
    increase the prices. But the dealer does not give any discounts at all since the product is new according to them. However with some talks they have agreed to give the rubber matting costing some Rs 1100=00 for free, which will protect the carpets.
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    Post  Vibhor 31st March 2009, 9:13 pm

    Thats good news anjan, but why you changed your mind from sedan to SUV? Looks like era of sedans is really going to over!Lol!:lol!:
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    Post  thackervijay 2nd April 2009, 9:55 am

    congrats anjan, you seems to looking for diesel engine whatever type of car maybe..lol.
    Mhawk surely is a superb engine from mahindra and you are going to enjoy its ride, keep updating and why is it such two weeks time for delivery? also do input are you going for cladding or without it.
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    Post  raj_5004 2nd April 2009, 9:20 pm

    good choice anjan.
    now that would be the second mHawk on this forum. we can give a joint ownership report too... Lol...
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    Post  anjan 3rd April 2009, 7:31 pm

    Thanks vibhor, vijay and raj.It was all about sturdiness and since mahindra is in my genes I keep coming back to it whenever i get the chance. Yes Raj I will provide all the feedbacks for the report-thanks.
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    Post  anjan 10th April 2009, 10:59 pm

    Got a thrilling call from the dealer today, saying that my SUV is
    moving out of the company in a day or two. It means that by sometime
    next week the new beast will be mine.As I had not test-driven the SUV
    while booking on 27th March, the demo car not being available, I had
    been repeatedly telling them to allow me to test drive one.Today, I
    told the salesman that maybe the test drives will be amply done when I
    become an owner next week.Courteous, very well behaved and polite the
    dealers men are, but these words from me pinched him (Should Skoda link
    up its marketing with Mahindra a la the Fiat-Tata alliance?).
    To my surprise, late in the evening a factory fresh, Rocky Beige
    coloured Scorpio SLX came along with the salesman and a driver in tow.
    The music system was on and was blaring FM music, mainly Bollywood
    chartbusters.
    Being dusk time and also being in a hurry to test drive the beast, I
    conveniently forgot the camera.But saw the lighted ignition key and the
    lighting for ingress and egress below the doors, when the beast was
    parked, which are invisible during daytime.
    I started with my better half and small daughter. Engaging the first
    gear I drove off.The gear shift is a little imprecise and takes time to
    get used to.Due to the traffic conditions, i could only engage upto the
    fourth gear. What impressed me the most was the engine-its so very
    responsive and simply obeys commands with all due respects to the
    driver.Its so silent that one can mistake it for petrol. But not as
    silent as the 1.3 Fiat MJD, with which once you go to the filling
    station, maybe the occupants come to know that it has a diesel heart.
    The SUV's cabin is very well insulated. Another impressive point was
    the suspension that gobbles up ups and downs and large potholes,
    sending very little or almost no rattling to the occupants. The brakes
    were quite hard being brand new. The steering and the controls simply
    pamper the driver. One does not feel that he is driving such a huge
    1850Kg/120bhp beast. The steering is very precise and can be
    pinpointed to take commands.The doors take some effort (harder push)
    to open and close typical of the Mahindra range. Regret I could not
    take pictures! In the eerie silence within the cabin when my talkative
    daughter was enjoying the ride's thrill, the voice assist suddenly
    popped up with a lovely female voice saying something like "you're
    diesel has reached the reserve", which was for the dealers men to take
    care of.
    I simply liked the MHawk engine and the mighty beast. Its worth every paisa that we invest in, after taking the buying decision.
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    Post  Crazy cat 10th April 2009, 11:24 pm

    That's cool anjan, especially the voice guide. It would be interesting to know about the status like, "you're
    diesel has reached the reserve".
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    Post  dcargod 11th April 2009, 3:52 pm

    Hey anjan congrats on your new scorpio mHawk. Its a very nice and sturdy SUV, in fact the best poor man's SUV. Do kep us updated on the latest developments between you and your brand new beast. :D
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    Post  raj_5004 11th April 2009, 5:34 pm

    Crazy cat wrote:That's cool anjan, especially the voice guide. It would be interesting to know about the status like, "you're
    diesel has reached the reserve".

    in my scorpio, its a guy who speaks. :(

    scorpio has a list of 17 commands which it speaks when the need arises. some warnings are for door open, seatbelt warning, handbrake engaged, fuel in reserve, coolant level low, engine temperature high, etc. these commands can be entirely switched off or selected commands can be switched off through a button in the glovebox. even if you switch off the commands, there are indications in the instrument panel for essential warnings, so no worries!
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    Post  Crazy cat 11th April 2009, 6:08 pm

    So sad that you get male voice 🇳🇴 . But still a manly car needs male voice ;) .

    The 17commands feature is impressive. Is this available in all variants?
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    Post  anjan 11th April 2009, 7:56 pm

    Thanks CC, dcargod and raj. The voice assist is available in the higher end models starting from the SLE, SLX and the SLX A/T.
    Will post more and more details of the beast which has started its onward journey from Nashik by truck to reach the showroom.

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