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    All Maruti models undergoing facelift!

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    Post  Road Rocket 19th May 2009, 4:39 pm

    HYDERABAD: Leading carmaker Maruti Suzuki today said its all models, including the Maruti 800 and Omni, are going through various modifications and upgradation to meet Bharat Stage IV emission norms.

    "Our new K series engines are very efficient compared to previous generation engines. So, we are now working on all existing engines to improve the after treatment on emission of the gases," Maruti Suzuki India's Managing Executive Officer (Engineering) I V Rao said told reporters after launching the new Ritz model here.

    "We are basically working on catalysers on the same engines for different models to meet the Bharat stage norms, that will come into effect from April 2010," Rao said.

    On reports that Maruti would phase out 800 and Omni models by 2015, Rao said, "We are working on to upgrade the Maruti 800 and Omni besides developing compliant models to meet the new emission norms."

    "Based on preliminary tests, we are confident that we will be able to comply both Maruti and Omni with Bharat Stage emissions norms, which means it will not only meet BS norms, but it will continue beyond 2010," Rao said.

    Maruti Suzuki has plans to roll out its first indigenous model in the next three years, he said adding "we are developing a new model on existing platform, all by our engineers at Maruti in India."

    "We have just started the initial activities for this model and its likely to take about 3 years to functionalise," Rao said adding "Regarding segment, what type of model, what engine are being still debated and discussed.

    "We are doing the basic discussions with our marketing division to identify the exact positioning of this model, based on which we would be developing the concept," Rao said.

    He said they were increasing their engineers at R & D centres in the country from 720 engineers to 1,000 by March 2010, who would consist of fresh and experienced recruits.

    As part of the Rs 9,000 crore investment in India, Maruti Suzuki will have an additional engineering centre in Haryana on 500 acre. "We now have our engineering centre in Gurgaon plant which also caters for Manesar plant. We are now looking at land for setting up the improving grounds," he said.

    "It will be for crash facility, test tracks, evaluation of new models and other facilities for testing the performance of the vehicle and its durability," Rao said.

    Reacting to a query, he said "In the last 4-5 months most of the manufacturers have seen growth and with elections outcome, I am sure it will further peg up the market".

    Reacting to another query on Gypsy category, Rao said "Whatever diesel engine we have got right now, it doesn't get into Gypsy body. And in the existing form its not possible to have diesel option for Gypsy."


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    Post  Crazy cat 19th May 2009, 4:46 pm

    So the first news of Omni and 800 being phased out is a complete rumour.

    And i guess there is no future for Gypsy in India
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    Post  Road Rocket 19th May 2009, 4:48 pm

    But Believe me or not, Gypsies are doing quite well in India.
    They are not used much for urban use but they are used in large numbers in the forest areas for safari etc.


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    Post  Crazy cat 19th May 2009, 4:53 pm

    Well may be but those small numbers aren't going to save it. It is time for Maruti to do something to Gypsy.
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    Post  Road Rocket 20th May 2009, 3:58 pm

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    Post  thackervijay 21st May 2009, 9:53 am

    hmm so again we are going to see new range of vehicles with same 1.2 kb series engine from maruti, 800,omni,may be alto and waiting to hear something for gypsy too.
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    Post  autodude sparsh 22nd May 2009, 8:36 am

    Gypsy is selling like hot cakes literally.
    Being an utterly pathetic on-road car, it sells 7500+ units per year!!
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    Post  thackervijay 22nd May 2009, 10:05 am

    yeah sparsh, but news is that new gypsy is under process and we might see it coming by 2010.
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    Post  im_hummer_freak 22nd May 2009, 10:14 am

    new gypsy would be interesting.
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    Post  dcargod 22nd May 2009, 1:03 pm

    I thought Maruti would launch the Gymny in India with a 1.3l DDiS engine.

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    Post  thackervijay 22nd May 2009, 2:19 pm

    yeah it was in news that gymny is coming here but maruti plans out other way here and might bring new gypsy here with DDiS engine too.
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    Post  Crazy cat 22nd May 2009, 7:03 pm

    thackervijay wrote:yeah it was in news that gymny is coming here but maruti plans out other way here and might bring new gypsy here with DDiS engine too.
    No way vijay. Check the quote below, no diesel engine of maruti can be fitted to Gypsy. Gymny needed to be brought here but i'm not impressed with its looks too.
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    Reacting to another query on Gypsy
    category, Rao said "Whatever diesel engine we have got right now, it
    doesn't get into Gypsy body. And in the existing form its not possible
    to have diesel option for Gypsy."


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    Post  Road Rocket 22nd May 2009, 7:08 pm

    First of all, That is not called "Gymny", That is Suzuki Jimmy!

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    Post  Crazy cat 22nd May 2009, 8:05 pm

    Road Rocket wrote:First of all, That is not called "Gymny", That is Suzuki Jimmy!

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    Post  autodude sparsh 22nd May 2009, 9:52 pm

    Jimny won't be able to serve military and police purposes so they should give Gypsy a slight tweak and continue it.
    The engines for Gypsy should be a 1.2L K12M, 1.3L JTD and 1.6L Petrol from SX4.
    Jimny can do with a 1.3L JTD, 1.2L K12M and the 1L K10B since it's a tiny jeep.
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    Post  dcargod 22nd May 2009, 11:47 pm

    But Maruti will not look forward to provide ultimate satisfaction to us. It'll only look at places from where money will come in.
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    Post  Crazy cat 23rd May 2009, 12:55 am

    autodude sparsh wrote:Jimny won't be able to serve military and police purposes so they should give Gypsy a slight tweak and continue it.
    The engines for Gypsy should be a 1.2L K12M, 1.3L JTD and 1.6L Petrol from SX4.
    Jimny can do with a 1.3L JTD, 1.2L K12M and the 1L K10B since it's a tiny jeep.
    Check the first post in this thread. MS has clearly stated that 1.3 cannot be added to Gypsy and also no much changes can be done to it.
    But yeah Jimny will be too soft for Army(looks)
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    Post  Akash 23rd May 2009, 11:33 am

    Come on yaar, Jimmy cannot replace gypsy. Actually i saw Jimmy last month at my Honda SS. I talked to the service advisor attending that car and i was told that the car belonged to a frnd of his and had come for washing and not servicing. It was imported from some country(he didnt know which) and costed 17 lacs in all.Also the cars a 2 seater, though it had wide tyres the car body doesnt look as rigid as Gypsy..
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    Post  Road Rocket 23rd May 2009, 4:02 pm

    Gypsy is a Gypsy, Jimmy can't replace it, Here I'm putting the pics of both cars -

    All Maruti models undergoing facelift! MarutiGypsy
    All Maruti models undergoing facelift! Maruti_gypsy_ext3

    Suzuki Jimny (NOTE THE DDiS BADGE BELOW SIDE INDICATOR!)
    All Maruti models undergoing facelift! Jimny10
    All Maruti models undergoing facelift! 4841_810

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    Post  im_hummer_freak 23rd May 2009, 4:12 pm

    yes RR. i think maruti would (and should) come up with a new model to replace the gypsy, just like replacements for esteem and baleno were done. a totally new diesel/petrol SUV.
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    Post  dcargod 23rd May 2009, 4:53 pm

    But as usual, Maruti will not take the trouble to do that. It'll continue to sell the old and aging Gypsy.
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    Post  Road Rocket 25th May 2009, 8:45 am

    MARUTI PLANS VERSA & ZEN ESTILO FACELIFT.

    Maruti which is aggressively working on upgrading its models to suit Bharat IV emission models also plans to facelift its beleaguered models - Zen esitlio and versa.

    NEW VERSA
    As we reported you earlier, Maruti Suzuki is working on a model called O2 which is essentially a facelifted version of its versa. The new versa is expected to hit the market by October 2009. Celebrate this Diwali with Maruti with new versa.

    NEW ESTILO
    Compared to swift and alto, zen estilo failed to take off for Maruti Suzuki even after launching many versions of the hatchback. The zen estilo will get a facelift in exteriors and in interiors as it gears up for the Bharat IV emission norms. A new grille, a new bumper at the front and few more stickers on the body panels would be part of the facelift.
    http://www.vicky.in/straightfrmtheheart/maruti-plans-versa-and-zen-estilo-facelift/
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    Post  dcargod 25th May 2009, 7:20 pm

    This move by Maruti is welcome but I don't think Versa will take off. Acar like that requires an economic diesel engine to say the least. The 1.3 DDiS engine would have suited this car best.

    As far as the Estilo is concerned, it is not the looks that stalled this car but its old generation engine, poor build quality and structure rigidity and poor suspension.
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    Post  Road Rocket 26th May 2009, 9:39 am

    ....Ok Now check this then -

    New Engines For Maruti Cars.
    Maruti Suzuki is going to refresh its entire existing portfolio of older models in the next two years. Swift, the largest selling premium hatchback in the country, will get a fresh design and new petrol engine while Maruti’s largest selling product Alto will come in two new variants. As posted earlier, Alto will have a stripped down version to compete with the Tata Nano and an upmarket variant loaded with the new KB series engine to take on Hyundai Santro, GM’s Spark and other compact cars in the market.
    Maruti’s other cars, the ageing WagonR and the Versa are also being overhauled while the company will tweak the engines of 25-year old Maruti 800 and the Omni to meet the new BS4 emission standards coming in April 2010. The sports utility vehicle Grand Vitara will also don a new engine.
    By refreshing the portfolio Maruti will save on huge incremental costs that goes into developing new cars and platforms. As against the minimum cost of Rs 50-100 crore for upgrading a car, developing a new car could eat up investments of Rs 600-1,000 crore. Maruti may also bring the Kizashi to India sometime next year. Developed by its Japanese parent Suzuki Motor Corp, it will compete with the likes of Honda Civic, Toyota Corolla and Hyundai Elantra.
    (Motorbeam.com)
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    Post  thackervijay 26th May 2009, 11:53 am

    versa is getting face lift is surprising, for me omni should be the first one to get a new body, its been long journey for this car on indian roads, let this one come up with new model then they can get other models too, Estilo didnt really do well like old zen, but with some cosmetic changes still it would do good either, and new estilo doesnt sound good either.

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