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    K&N air filter

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    Post  Crazy cat 30th November 2008, 8:40 am

    I have an idea of fitting K&N air filter in my Swift VDi. What are all its benefits and drawbacks? How much will it cost(approx)? Will it boost power?
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    Post  zinam 30th November 2008, 9:01 am

    Air filter will never make an extra ordinary performance or power.

    The purpose of adding is to improve the Quality of air used for combustion.

    Ya it surely increases your torque at low rpms & u can even gain an slight increase in Mileage :cheers:

    K&N Air filter Costs about Rs.4950 in Chennai.

    Advantages

    improved performance in the low end slow moving traffic
    notable difference in performance
    Increase in Mileage

    Disadvantages

    I Dont see any!! Since you are just going to replace ur stock with K&N.

    :afro:


    Last edited by Vibhor on 30th November 2008, 11:07 am; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : TO CORRECT SPELLS.)
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    Post  Crazy cat 30th November 2008, 9:11 am

    Thank you for the reply. But I've heard that K&N filters reduce FE than normal under hard driving.
    Is it to be replaced upon every service? Because 4950 seems expensive.
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    Post  zinam 30th November 2008, 9:45 am

    Any Filter reduces FE under hard Driving.

    Ya its obviously true... Every product has a worn out period & so K&N Filters even will have it.

    It depends on how many Kms u Drive..?
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    Post  Crazy cat 30th November 2008, 1:22 pm

    What i'm trying to tell is, K&N filter returns less FE than stock air filter under hard driving.
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    Post  raj_5004 30th November 2008, 2:25 pm

    i dont think that it will return less FE than stock filters under any riving condition. the FE will be more but marginally. K&N filters also change the sound of cars, again marginally. it is more noticeable in bikes.
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    Post  Crazy cat 30th November 2008, 4:50 pm

    Will it change the sound of engine? or exhaust sound?
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    Post  raj_5004 30th November 2008, 7:32 pm

    engine sound, not exhaust. hence its more audible in bikes.
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    Post  Vibhor 30th November 2008, 7:38 pm

    If you want to change the sound without any such mods ,then Sound Booster is the best option! :bball:
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    Post  Crazy cat 1st December 2008, 12:50 am

    Does installing K&N filter void warranty?
    What is a sound booster?
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    Post  raj_5004 1st December 2008, 1:24 pm

    warranty- it depends in the manufacturer, i dont think it should!
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    Post  zinam 1st December 2008, 7:56 pm

    @raj_5004 - Buddy.. I hope CC means Insurance & Carz Warranty .... not the parts Warranty...

    @CC - No Buddy.. It will not be void.. Don worry.. U are jus upgrading an stock part... This doesnt play an crucial rule in Insurance & Warranty.
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    Post  raj_5004 1st December 2008, 8:03 pm

    yes, even i meant the car warranty ! :o
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    Post  Crazy cat 1st December 2008, 11:26 pm

    But what is the prime benefit of spending nearly 5000rs for an air filter?
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    Post  zinam 2nd December 2008, 6:11 pm

    Think Buddy !! :lol!:

    Crazy cat wrote:I have an idea of fitting K&N air filter in my Swift VDi. What are all its benefits and drawbacks? How much will it cost(approx)? Will it boost power?

    Hope you only started the thread??


    I mean with what expectations you had an idea of adding up K&N Filter to you Swift??
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    Post  zinam 2nd December 2008, 6:11 pm

    Think Buddy !! :lol!:

    Crazy cat wrote:I have an idea of fitting K&N air filter in my Swift VDi. What are all its benefits and drawbacks? How much will it cost(approx)? Will it boost power?

    Hope you only started the thread??


    I mean with what expectations you had an idea of adding up K&N Filter to you Swift??

    MOD'S NOTE (RoadRocket): Please refrain from multi posting.
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    Post  Crazy cat 2nd December 2008, 7:43 pm

    Yeah buddy I started it, but I had no idea about it at that time. I came to know about it from you all guys. After your guys explanation, i'm now thinking why to spend for it.
    I thought that FE and power will increase by 30%(my friend said like this).
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    Post  zinam 2nd December 2008, 7:55 pm

    Oh.. Ok Buddy !! 8)

    I hope your friend was jus trying kidding kind of stuff...

    There are no ways to improve a Cars FE & Performance by jus Adding an air filter..

    Wat you can expect is around 3-5% of FE & Performance.. :D
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    Post  anjan 10th December 2008, 8:19 pm

    This is reproduced from a thread by Manish in the ACI forum
    "The main difference between a stock and performance filter like the K&N is the amount of air that passes through it."

    Having heard about K&N and also having seeing
    some under bonnets, merely wondering if they really worked wasn't good
    enough anymore. It was time for some action and we decided to find out
    if an air filter could indeed deliver more performance as K&N
    claimed. Testing the K&N box replacement filter on a Maruti Swift
    would provide us with the answers, we figured.
    The main difference between a stock and
    performance filter like the K&N is the amount of air that passes
    through it. While stock filters are more restrictive, an aftermarket
    performance K&N filter allows more air into the engine.
    More air and more oxygen are the essential
    ingredients of performance tuning. Simply put, more air into the engine
    means the fuel injection system can deliver more fuel, which means more
    combustion and thereby more power to tarmac. That's the theory at
    least. But what we wanted to find out was how a K&N supplies more
    air without letting more dirt into the engine.
    The fact that it is made of cotton gauze bathed in special oil and not from cheaper paper, like the original part, helps.

    Furthermore, the design of the filter and the
    cotton ensures a higher airflow is maintained while continuing to
    provide good filtration. Car manufacturers usually cut costs by not
    installing these types of filters. To keep costs down, OEM filters
    generally use paper or foam elements to filter out dirt. With the
    K&N filter, all you do is wash and re-oil and it is ready to go
    right back into your car.
    K&N claims the filter can be serviced 25
    times and normally recommends a service interval of 70,000 km. However,
    dusty conditions in India mean a service interval of 35,000-45,000 km.
    Coming back to what we set out to find out. Does it work? Does it make your car quicker? In a nutshell, yes.

    The K&N filter allows more air to flow into
    the engine all through the power-band, and this means that more fuel
    can be burned. However, don't expect a huge improvement. The
    replacement filter is the mildest type here and you have to really look
    for improved performance.
    Also, our Swift didn't feel quicker with the
    K&N straight out of the box - the filter needed to be used for a
    few days before it really opened out, and it's only then that we felt
    the slight bump up in power and experienced top-end responsiveness.
    The flow of power was smoother, performance
    was delivered easier and we found a mild improvement in flat-out
    acceleration as well. If you're the kind of driver who likes to wind
    the motor up on a regular basis, you will appreciate the subtle
    difference a replacement free-flow can do for your car.
    The K&N filter is a nice thing to have but
    to really make the most of it, you have to slap on a free-flow exhaust
    too and do a mild `chip' job. Porting and polishing the cylinder head
    will help too.
    This filter offers long life and that's what's
    bound to endear it to people. At around Rs 4,590 for the Swift's
    filter, it costs substantially more than the regular filter but the
    fact that it is reusable should put all your fears to rest. Also, don't
    forget the marginal gain in performance. (As per our article in The Hindu)
    FRG


    True a K&N filter alone will not translate into more power. But the
    long term effect on the engine remains to be seen.
    FRG


    The tests prove and show constructively that more dust is ingested with
    K&N as compared to stock paper and felt filters, now in my book,
    dust contains silica which acts as emery, and emery as well all know is
    abrasion, the very pistons and ports used in the engines are polished
    and cut with emery.
    Gurkha

    K&N filters last for the lifetime of the car in most cases.
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    Post  Crazy cat 10th December 2008, 8:58 pm

    Thanks for sourcing this article anjan. So it is worth an investment, as it doesný need to be replced and serviced once in 35000kms, that's good actually.
    But what about FE, can I xpect a notable change in FE?(I know zinam and raj said improved FE, but how much gain can be spotted)


    @vibhor, what is a sound booster?
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    Post  Vibhor 14th December 2008, 4:31 pm

    Excellent work anjan buddy!!clap

    @CC , buddy, even i don't have much knowledge of sound booster, but i heard of this in some auto show, that its for the people who don't want to do serious mods, can get feel of sports car by adding sound booster! :bball:
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    Post  sudeepd 24th January 2009, 6:26 pm

    anjan wrote:The tests prove and show constructively that more dust is ingested with
    K&N as compared to stock paper and felt filters

    If more dust is injected with K & N, then how will the engine perform better? Won't it (the extra dust) damage the engine?
    Please justify.
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    Post  Road Rocket 17th February 2009, 1:50 pm

    Yup!good point, Even i want to know this.
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    Post  im_hummer_freak 17th February 2009, 2:35 pm

    sudeepd wrote:
    anjan wrote:The tests prove and show constructively that more dust is ingested with
    K&N as compared to stock paper and felt filters

    If more dust is injected with K & N, then how will the engine perform better? Won't it (the extra dust) damage the engine?
    Please justify.
    there seems to be something wrong in this. as to my knowledge K&N filters are used to improve the airflow and not increase the dirt flow. would be nice if someone could explain.
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    Post  Gangsta 14th March 2009, 12:01 am

    Hello everyone.

    @ Cray Cat: Bro first of all K&N filter does not reduce fuel economy. In your Swift Diesel you can put PETE'S GREEN COTTON FILTER or K&N APOLLO FILTER. The main advantage of this filter is that its increases the low end torque of your car. It does not requires to change your filter in every 5000 kms. Its life is more than 1 lac km....
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    In diesel car it is not advisable for putting Free Flow Exhaust as it will deceased the performance of the car. Free Flow Exhaust are only for petrol cars.

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