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    Create your own high octane juice.

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    Post  ghost 22nd April 2009, 1:10 am

    What is an Octane number?It's just a rating that informs you of the fuels' ability to resist detonation or "pinging".
    There are 2 standards.RON(Rated Octane number) and MON(Motor Octane Number).MON is usually preferred as a rating system since it's more real world(read:accurate).
    Now,how do you get your engine to ping?options are:
    Run lean.Crazy lean
    Use mad ass compression
    Advance your ignition timing to ludicrous levels.But why would you do any of this?
    1)Running lean would get you some fuel economy and snappy performance on a cold engine.Once it get's hot,you're killing it.
    2)Increasing comp loosely means increasing torque and hp by cutting the head or the cylinder to reduce combustion chamber volumes.
    3)Advancing your ignition makes the engine appear peppy,while accelarating.Keep it up and run crappy fuel,you'll end up generating enough heat to blow a hole in the piston.This happens becuase the motor's burn time increases,hence you need to dump in more fuel.
    Now,with a higher octane rating,the above 3 points become a little less daunting in terms of risk.Since reduced or no detonation is taking place,your motor is making more power without killing itself.
    Now,most stock bikes and cars have preprogrammed ignition curves which don't let them advance beyond a certain point,otherwise they would suddenly blow cranks and gearboxes while attempting to run in reverse.
    So?You can up your compression to get that extra few hp.Below is an article i read on a forum quite some time ago.This tells you how you can increase your octane points to help you get all the power you can squeeze out of a motor without resorting to NOS or nitro.

    Homebrew Gasoline Octane Boosters

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Editor's note: I would NOT suggest that a person use the following fuel
    mixtures without considering the detrimental effects on your engine,
    vital engine components (O2 sensor, etc), and other potential damage.
    That said, the information is interesting.
    Original published in:

    GS-Xtra
    1213 Gornto Road
    Valdosta, GA 31602
    (912) 244-0577

    Editor: Richard Lasetter, president Gran Sport Club of America (GSCA)

    Formula #1 - Toluene
    R+M/2.........114
    Cost...........$2.50/gal
    Mixtures with 92 Octane Premium
    10%...........94.2 Octane
    20%...........96.4 Octane
    30%...........98.6 Octane
    Notes: Common ingredient in Octane Boosters in a can. 12-16 ounces will
    only raise octane 2-3 *points*, i.e. from 92 to 92.3. Often costs $3-5
    for 12-16 ounces, when it can be purchased for less than $3/gal at
    chemical supply houses or paint stores.

    Formula #2 - Xylene
    R+M/2.........117
    Cost...........$2.75/gal
    Mixtures with 92 Octane Premium
    10%...........94.5 Octane
    20%...........97.0 Octane
    30%...........99.5 Octane
    Notes: Similar to Toluene. 12-16 ounces will only raise octane 2-3
    *points*, i.e. from 92 to 92.3. Usually mixed with Toluene and
    advertised as *race formula*.

    Formula #3 - Methyl-tertiary-butyl-ether (MTBE)
    R+M/2.........118
    Cost...........$3.50/gal
    Mixtures with 92 Octane Premium
    10%...........94.6 Octane
    20%...........97.2 Octane
    30%...........99.8 Octane
    Notes: Oxygenate. Very common in octane booster products. Has lower BTU
    content than toluene or xylene, but oxygenate effect makes the gasoline
    burn better and produce more energy.

    Formula #4 - Methanol or Ethanol
    R+M/2.........101
    Cost...........$0.60 - $1.75/gal
    Mixtures with 92 Octane Premium
    10%...........94.3 Octane (Methanol)
    10%...........94.7 Octane (Ethanol)
    20%...........Not Recommended
    Notes: Methanol is wood alcohol. Ethanol is grain alcohol and found in
    Gasohol in 10% ratios. Both alcohols are mildly corrosive and will eat
    gas tank linings, rubber and aluminum if used in excessive ratios. Main
    ingredient in "Gas Dryers", combine with water.

    Formula #5 - Isopropyl Alcohol and Tertiary Butyl Alcohol
    R+M/2.........101
    Cost...........$0.60-$1.50/gal
    Mixtures with 92 Octane Premium
    10%...........94.5 Octane
    20%...........Not Recommended
    30%...........Not Recommended

    Notes: Similar to Methanol/Ethanol. Isopropyl Alcohol is simply rubbing alcohol.

    Sample Mixture
    To make your own octane booster, it is easiest to make up a large batch, and then bottle it up in "dosage-size" uses.
    Below is the basic formula of one of the popular octane booster products. To make eight 16 ounce bottles (128 oz = 1 gal):

    100 oz of toluene for octane boost
    25 oz of mineral spirits (cleaning agent)
    3 oz of transmission fluid (lubricating agent)
    This product is advertised as "octane booster with cleaning agent *and*
    lubricating agent!". Diesel fuel or kerosene can be substituted for
    mineral spirits and light turbine oil can be substituted for
    transmission fluid. Color can be added with petroleum dyes.

    I've tried pink toluene crystals in speed 91 and the bike seemed to like it.I've run MTBE with a little over 180 psi on an RX100 with a dynamic timing cdi locked into full advance.The results were pretty impressive and somewhat demoralizing for the guy on the Karizma who was left tailing me.
    For those if you who can't relate to this,watch the world's fastest indian and when you get to te part where he drops his heart attack pills into tha tank,you'll understand.Back in the day,TNT was actually used to prevent/monitor angina.TNT is Tri nitro toluene.
    Hope this little post helps someone out there to go a little faster.
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    Post  abhinavgupta 22nd April 2009, 1:47 am

    Nice info Ghost.

    Please add the source of the information.
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    Post  swapszone 22nd April 2009, 8:25 am

    good job...
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    Post  im_hummer_freak 22nd April 2009, 2:22 pm

    👍 thats quite informative.
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    Post  Crazy cat 22nd April 2009, 8:02 pm

    Great info! Have you tried this? Or do you know any one who has tried this?
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    Post  ghost 23rd April 2009, 12:55 am

    @abhinav:I've clearly mentioned i read it on some forum a long while ago.There's even mention of where the original author got it from.
    @crazy cat:read the last paragraph
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    Post  goodspeed_89 1st June 2009, 7:17 pm

    quite good info dude.

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    Post  napster 5th June 2009, 10:21 pm

    cool!, ill try this soon
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    Post  roadlover 18th June 2009, 12:31 pm

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    Post  Hades 27th June 2009, 12:29 am

    nice stuff. Unfortunately procuring toluene is almost an impossible task if not a "terrorist tag" inflicting one. that or you can buy a bunch of Permanent markers and brew up some of the stuff in your garage, and enjoy the thrill of a "glue" high while you're at it!

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